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Episode 67: The Work Behind The Body with Kelsey K. Sather

In this episode I sit down for an important conversation with wordsmith Kelsey K. Sather.  We discuss her series of blog posts titled "The Work Behind the Body", a series of interviews with female outdoor athletes in Bozeman, Montana.  Kelsey delves into the details of Body Image, and that being a topic I don't know much about, I was both excited and nervous to struggle through the conversation.  

Thanks to the Bozeman community, and to Spire Climbing for allowing us to record this conversation live at their gym.  

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Episode 66: Now What? with Dan John

Last summer I started a list titled "Non Climbing (realistic) Dream Guests".  I only got as far as one name: Dan John.  I was planning to be in Salt Lake for the OR Trade Show, so I emailed Dan on the off chance that he'd do an in person conversation.  To my surprise he emailed back almost immediately, scheduled a call for the next day, and invited me to his house to workout and record the conversation. 

If you've taken even a cursory look into the field of Strength and Conditioning, you've seen the name Dan John repeatedly. He's often quoted by other coaches, including all of us here at Power Company Climbing, and his pragmatic approach to training is one that has resonated with me since I read his book, Easy Strength, co written with kettlebell guru Pavel Tsatsouline.

I went to his house to discuss his newest book, "Now What?", which asks and answers the important questions that coaches and athletes often forget to ask. After you've done your assessments, you've trained and met the standards, you've won or lost, or your season is over... Now What?  This book follows two other excellent books from Dan called "Intervention" and "Can You Go?", both of which should be required reading for coaches.

The wisdom that Dan shares concerning coaching and dealing with athletes is impossible to overvalue. While he's worked with Olympic and Professional athletes, he still makes time for an open workout in his simple garage gym at 9:30 every morning, where he both dispenses knowledge and learns from whoever shows up that day.  After a workout in Dan's gym, this style of what Dan calls "intentional community" is exactly how I plan to build my own home gym. 

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Episode 65: Board Meetings | Five Minute Fingers

It's been a while since Nate and I sat down and did one of these, so we figured we'd kick it back off with a shorty.  The interwebs are going crazy with Andrew Bisharats new miracle hangboard program, Five Minute Fingers, and we've gotten several messages asking for our opinion.  

Here it is.

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Episode 64: Fixed vs. Growth Mindset with Trevor Ragan

Growth Mindset has recently become a hot topic in the world of sports, and for good reason. Mindset, which can be greatly affected by the feedback you give or receive, is key to learning and performance. Trevor Ragan is one of the most well versed in the science of learning and how mindset affects it, and he's out there working with teams, coaches, teachers, and businesses to actually apply the science.

Trevor is the founder of Train Ugly, a group dedicated to sharing the science behind mindset, feedback, and the learning process, and how it relates to performance.  I highly suggest you visit Train Ugly online and spend time watching their excellent videos or reading their material.  It'll be time well spent.  

During our conversation, Trevor gave me a great list of resources where we can learn more about these topics.  If you buy through our links at, we get a small percentage from Amazon (it doesn't raise your prices) to help support the podcast.

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